Why remove half of the jewel sockets?

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chobo999#2010 wrote:
....what's your Point man...


You don’t see the ethical problem making people pay to alpha test a game you advertise is open beta ready?

You do understand alpha testers are a paid position correct?

With your logic why not launch every game in an absolute tragic state and charge full price because every developer can and then use anyone stupid enough to buy it as a free tester they don’t have to pay for?

Not clicking with you at all how that is morally and ethically appauling?
Last edited by Lore#3772 on Apr 4, 2025, 10:02:14 PM
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chobo999#2010 wrote:
Have a good day man


Let me fix my statement before you go.

You don’t see the ethical problem with making people pay to alpha test a game you advertise is open beta ready AND you plan on releasing the game free to play after the open beta? So literally your only forced paying customer is the one you are using like a beast of burden alpha tester that you don’t pay and openly disrespect by not being honest and truthful until 48 hours before a patch that literally changes every aspect of building a character?

Seems good and above board to you?

If this is how GGG treats the people willing to throw supporter pack money at a game that’s going to be free to play, imagine how they’ll treat you when it’s actually free to play.

They don’t give a shit about the paying customer even when they are using them as free alpha testers

Not sure how this is all lost on you but maybe you have a family member that works for them or something. Denial is a hell of a drug. Not as serious a drug as all the cocaine the shot caller at GGG is doing but still it’s a hell of a drug.

I’m not sure why I’m the only one who sees this for what it is, but buckle up because the funny thing about the truth is eventually it makes itself self evident no matter how stupid any of us are.

If someone from GGG feels insulted by what I’ve said just know insulting any of you isn’t my intent. But I greet disrespect with disrespect. On an individual level I’m sure most of you are great, but your company disrespected me and every other paying customer whether they realize it or not. It’s that simple.

The way I see it you have two options

Option A) keep doing what you are doing until you’ve burned the ship to the ground.

Option B) admit 0.2.0 was an incredibly huge mess up on your part and fix it. And for the love of god do not say “we didn’t notice cutting jewel slots by 50% would have such an adverse effect on build diversity”. Admit you messed up. Do not obfuscate the blame.

Respect is earned.

I honestly don’t care what you guys do anymore, you’ve lost my respect and my trust. Others will follow, I’m just ahead of the curve.
Last edited by Lore#3772 on Apr 4, 2025, 10:17:51 PM
All I know is I am having a much worse time this go at it! Things feel a crap load slower, I am wayyy weaker, and mobs are way stronger. And it upsets be beyond the pale that I paid to be an alpha tester! What they had, although INCOMPLETE, was at least a good start. not sure why they couldn't just build from it. What we have now boys & girls is a hot crappy pile of doo doo. REALLY REALLY Wish LE didnt push back their release cause now I have to wait to get my ARPG fix in. I am NOT pushing to maps in such a shitty state. Sorry but my time is worth way more then slogging through a game that was just ruined.
I know this topic is about jewels and build diversity, but lets not forget, they ruined more then just build diversity. They have officially ruined the 1-endgame grind. Its just NOT FUN!

PS: If I wanted a game this friggen SLOW, I'll just go play No rest for the wicked.
Last edited by TheUndying#7256 on Apr 4, 2025, 10:38:17 PM
Too bad they don’t let us choose the locations of the jewel slots
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Too bad they don’t let us choose the locations of the jewel slots


Even if they did 12 is too few for the future health of the game and constantly changing the number is a toxic way to design the game.

Basically by cutting by 50% they told you out loud “we don’t care about the future of this game” OR “we have no idea what we are doing”

Like those are pretty much the two most likely options by leaps and bounds statistically.

It seems so insignificant right? Just 12 jewel slots so what? It’s such a small part of the game right? Wrong.

It’s a major part of the future of the game and they are just gonna keep moving the goal post like d4

Not with economy resets. But they’ll engineer ways.

They just showed you their intentions. It’s either malicious or ignorant.

I’m just a guy. Everyone is just a person. But this change was bs and I didn’t even have to play a second of it to know it. Normally I’d worry about being ignorant but this is simply math.

You give something beautiful and you take 50%. You lose a lot of people along the way. Seems dumb right? But in this context it fits like a glove.

Even now I am doing someone else’s job and helping repair this toxic change. But will my words fall on deaf ears? Who knows.

In my opinion it was malicious and intentional to get other games in the portfolio to sell long term. Whole gaming industry has become a rug pull.

They can’t all profit if a few developers make actual good games. So gimp the games after paid release and move on to the next rug pull.

The inability to take blame for problems and just laughing off “oppsy we doubled boss hp and never noticed” seems like it would indicate ignorance but personally that’s malice to me.

Ignorance typically in context assumes goodness but stupidity. Those type of people treat it as serious matters.

This is there jobs. Not mine. Not yours. We don’t have to apologize for expectations after having played the last 6 months of a completely different game with the same exact title.

I didn’t spend 2 months of constant theory crafting for them to rug pull me over and over in the future. Once is good enough for me.

I don’t see in what dimension anyone from GGG saw this change going over well in anyway shape or form

You’d have to quite literally be top percentile dumbest humans alive. Or malicious intent.

I will stress again, I didn’t have to play a second of it. I just looked at the numbers themselves.

New red flag for any game. Guild with 0 purpose.

Also when people asked for you to make sekehma rings more meaningful this is not what they meant.
Last edited by Lore#3772 on Apr 5, 2025, 12:33:39 AM
If i would've known that jewel slots would be cut in half i would have NEVER wasted hundreds of hours grinding to get an adorned along with countless hours in trade finding +10 resist corrupted jewels to balance out the negative res from andvarius for my two aurabots. Even though they said characters in EA wouldn't be wiped and stay in the EA league, i feel like they've been neutered and put out to pasture by GGG's changes today.
The previous passive tree was beautiful with the 24 jewel sockets, it felt all the unique jewels had several places to place them nicely (ATD, CM, Heroic) but... now even adorned isn't really even worthwhile. Epic failure of design.
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The previous passive tree was beautiful with the 24 jewel sockets, it felt all the unique jewels had several places to place them nicely (ATD, CM, Heroic) but... now even adorned isn't really even worthwhile. Epic failure of design.


And so it begins.

The crushing awakening shall unfold for many as it did for us. I didn’t even have to play the update to know how measurably bad it would feel.

And again I think it was intentional. They could have buffed the end game.

Number go lower logic isn’t the right choice just because most people enjoy number go up fun.

I’m not a number go up kinda guy myself. I like niche weird stuff and diversity which is what it seemed like you offered till that epic 50% jewel slot rug pull.

But it doesn’t matter what any of us say or how we feel about it, they already got our money and in short time the game will launch f2p and they’ll rake in even more money from the macro transactions off a fresh flock of sheep who will never know how good the game was before they ruined it.

In short, they already made their bag. They know they gonna make another bag. The don’t care about our experience anymore, if they ever actually did at all.

I won’t play not out of spite, but simply so you don’t get another registered updated player and player number to reference when you struggle to have any to reference at all.

Anyway enjoy the spoils of your rotten fruit and poor decision making.

I also forgot to assume the almighty third option.

When it’s not ignorance and it’s not hard drugs or malice

It’s because it’s just a company that’s a sex cult that has industrialized a rug pull of pyramid scheme mechanic.

That’s what history says is true so ima go with history overall.

Such a sad story for people to look back on.
Last edited by Lore#3772 on Apr 5, 2025, 1:54:45 AM
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Lore#3772 wrote:
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Too bad they don’t let us choose the locations of the jewel slots


Even if they did 12 is too few for the future health of the game and constantly changing the number is a toxic way to design the game.

Basically by cutting by 50% they told you out loud “we don’t care about the future of this game” OR “we have no idea what we are doing”

Like those are pretty much the two most likely options by leaps and bounds statistically.

It seems so insignificant right? Just 12 jewel slots so what? It’s such a small part of the game right? Wrong.

It’s a major part of the future of the game and they are just gonna keep moving the goal post like d4

Not with economy resets. But they’ll engineer ways.

They just showed you their intentions. It’s either malicious or ignorant.

I’m just a guy. Everyone is just a person. But this change was bs and I didn’t even have to play a second of it to know it. Normally I’d worry about being ignorant but this is simply math.

You give something beautiful and you take 50%. You lose a lot of people along the way. Seems dumb right? But in this context it fits like a glove.

Even now I am doing someone else’s job and helping repair this toxic change. But will my words fall on deaf ears? Who knows.

In my opinion it was malicious and intentional to get other games in the portfolio to sell long term. Whole gaming industry has become a rug pull.

They can’t all profit if a few developers make actual good games. So gimp the games after paid release and move on to the next rug pull.

The inability to take blame for problems and just laughing off “oppsy we doubled boss hp and never noticed” seems like it would indicate ignorance but personally that’s malice to me.

Ignorance typically in context assumes goodness but stupidity. Those type of people treat it as serious matters.

This is there jobs. Not mine. Not yours. We don’t have to apologize for expectations after having played the last 6 months of a completely different game with the same exact title.

I didn’t spend 2 months of constant theory crafting for them to rug pull me over and over in the future. Once is good enough for me.

I don’t see in what dimension anyone from GGG saw this change going over well in anyway shape or form

You’d have to quite literally be top percentile dumbest humans alive. Or malicious intent.

I will stress again, I didn’t have to play a second of it. I just looked at the numbers themselves.

New red flag for any game. Guild with 0 purpose.

Also when people asked for you to make sekehma rings more meaningful this is not what they meant.


Hanlon's razor
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

Calm down, friend. You're taking a game too personally. I understand you and fully share your point of view on the patch. But just exhale, accept reality, and after taking a break from any games, just find yourself a new one for a couple of days. There are so many great games in the world. I'm sure you haven't passed 1% of all the great games. Just get some rest.

The developers just have strong problems in terms of game design. They have lost their understanding of their own game. This is quite possible when you're working on a game almost all the time, but you don't have enough time to play your project anymore.

And problems like accidentally missing health from bosses emphasize this. With the release of the game in early access, they faced a lot of problems and were simply physically unable to solve them all at once.

There is no time to delve into the build in detail, and some decisions, perhaps due to lack of time from more competent specialists, could be given to newcomers.

Perhaps the solution to the Adorned problem was one of those problems. It's sad that this happens, but that's life.
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