The biggest red flag for Path of Exile 2

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Vendetta#0327 wrote:

Lol D2 lasted for a decade, is still played and was vastly improved based on the players vision...Can you give us an example of a game that did well without listening to the player base ?

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Vendetta#0327 wrote:

.Can you give us an example of a game that did well without listening to the player base ?

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Warrax#2850 wrote:

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Vendetta#0327 wrote:

Lol D2 lasted for a decade, is still played and was vastly improved based on the players vision...Can you give us an example of a game that did well without listening to the player base ?

You just mentionned Diablo 2, Blizzard used to ignore most feedback. I mean who's making the game? players or dev?

Before I would say... 2010, dev didn't listened to most feedback. Most compagnies didn't listen to feedback other than internal feedback. Also games weren't made for the masses, they were usually made by gamers, for gamers.

I'm pretty happy to see Jonathan sticking to his vision, that's what all designers should do because licking the playerbase's butt is a receipt for disaster.

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Shujinko87#3391 wrote:

Funny because when blizzard didn't listen to feedback for D4, PoE fans trolled them.

When it's for PoE2, they praised him for sticking to his vision and not licking playerbase.

Talk about double standard here.

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Kerchunk#7797 wrote:

Guy they told you years ago the game is balanced with trade in mind. SSF is not the intended experience and they have repeatedly said loot will not feel right in this mode because loot rates are balanced assuming players will trade. You chose to play SSF you don't get to turn around and use it as evidence for bad loot dude they literally said that's what was going to happen if you played SSF.

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Slart1bartfast#0332 wrote:

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Kerchunk#7797 wrote:

Guy they told you years ago the game is balanced with trade in mind. SSF is not the intended experience and they have repeatedly said loot will not feel right in this mode because loot rates are balanced assuming players will trade. You chose to play SSF you don't get to turn around and use it as evidence for bad loot dude they literally said that's what was going to happen if you played SSF.

Which is a big part of the problem. The most effective way to play trade is to be a hideout warrior just playing the markets. Sorry, but looting and crafting is what this game should be about and not flipping items on trade or running maps to maximize div/hour.

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riotarchangel#2809 wrote:

if i wanted to play capitalism simulator there are games that do that better.

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this the game should be fun, with the tools to get it done yourself.

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Kerchunk#7797 wrote:

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riotarchangel#2809 wrote:

if i wanted to play capitalism simulator there are games that do that better.

You know you guys really tip your hand when every single one of your posts has to include some absurdly ridiculous exaggeration of a comparatively mundane task.

Are you really claiming that the only alternative to "no trade at all" is "playing capitalism simulator?" There's nothing at all in between those two extremes? You can't "trade once in awhile" or "occasionally use your currency to upgrade an item?"

Once I'm in the endgame I trade once or twice a week tops. There's no "flipping gear" or "hideout camping" or "playing the market." I blast maps until I have a nice stack of currency and then I spend ~30 minutes at most finding a nice upgrade for one or two items, then back to mapping.

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this the game should be fun, with the tools to get it done yourself.

That's what single player games are for dude.