Minion/Spectres build is now dead on arrival

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Wilmots#7633 wrote:

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brgmns#3811 wrote:

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Wilmots#7633 wrote:

I got 460 spirit. No need for the shield, So relax and see.

Posts like this always make me laugh. It's like saying "I have a job and money" so broke homeless people don't exist.

What? Somethings wrong with the community. Stick to the topic.

I was on topic. It seems you feel anyone who points out a flaw to your logic is simply wrong or mean that simply isn't the case. Why you make a blanket "I'm good so you have to be good" statement expect some to say, "that's not how it works". I wasn't rude, I made an honest and accurate analogy that was spot on topic based on your comment. That you didn't like it doesn't make it mean or off topic.

I'll elaborate for you though, when you say "I have.." and then explain because YOU have that everyone should be perfectly fine in a game that is heavily regulated by play time and RNG you aren't being realistic. Again I can say "I have a lot of money, so you should" but that takes out every single variable that allowed me to have the money and everything that is in your way to get the money. So what use is a comment like you made?

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Wilmots#7633 wrote:

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Sinewave#4361 wrote:

you probably got 460 spirit from increasing quality on a sceptre which can long no longer being increased. Reading is fun, try it some time.

Why sarcastic? Be kind dude. I got more spirit than i needed. So everything will be fine. Have a good one, the sun is shining.

What do you mean you got more than you needed?

I mean, you open your skill menu, and you say:

"I need 3 of those guys.
Ill take 2 of those.
5 of those.
Done, fuck the rest of the spirit."

I was living with the general understanding that people try to get the maximum number of summons, so they do maximum damage.

Also, you should really take into consideration the advice about "reading".

Because in the patch notes you can see, that minion damage and life has been reduced specifically at high gem levels.

If not about spirit, maybe just so you can re-evaluate the basic value of "I need".

Whatever this means...

To say the headline of the thread is way to dramatic. To state that enough spirit will be achievable. You do not take into consideration that for e.g. life of bosses have been reduced too. That we will have spectres as adds. Just come on, all im saying is...relax and let us see.

And yes sir...i do read, but i dont panic.

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Increasing toxic community here. Why not being factual?

The post was factual you just dont comprehened whats being said. The amount of spirit you have right now is irrelevant. How spirit works after the patch is fundamentally changed.

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Wilmots#7633 wrote:

Increasing toxic community here. Why not being factual?

You're right about that. It was never this way before POE2. But the question is then: Is the problem with the community? Or is POE2 design philosophy the problem? I would argue the latter.

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Sinewave#4361 wrote:

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Increasing toxic community here. Why not being factual?

The post was factual you just dont comprehened whats being said. The amount of spirit you have right now is irrelevant. How spirit works after the patch is fundamentally changed.

Yeah...reading is fun...is factual...thank you for talking.

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AlphaIIOmega#6824 wrote:

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Wilmots#7633 wrote:

Increasing toxic community here. Why not being factual?

You're right about that. It was never this way before POE2. But the question is then: Is the problem with the community? Or is POE2 design philosophy the problem? I would argue the latter.

I love the concept of poe2. Making it tough as hell is fine for me. And will seperate the base. Thats fine too.

dead compared to what? spark last league? All the other builds got nerfed too.

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Vrelkki#0080 wrote:

dead compared to what? spark last league? All the other builds got nerfed too.

Which one of the two builds?
The mana stacking or the attribute stacking one?

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Skellymancer#5263 wrote:

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Vrelkki#0080 wrote:

dead compared to what? spark last league? All the other builds got nerfed too.

Which one of the two builds?
The mana stacking or the attribute stacking one?

well if you compere with this 2 then minions got an easy life :D Mana staking/spark is dead for sure, pilar of the got and howa riperino.

As for the spirit i think it will be mostly harder to get some good spirit base early but ok ish late game.

Still with all the unreavel gems and passive tree change we can't be sure of anything.